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[00:01] Victor Davis Hanson: Here's the official Canadian and left-wing version. The United States is back again, bullying poor old Canada. And we are a liberal EU progressive nation and now they're in the dark ages. So what they did to us, we were going to have a trade agreement. And then they said we want to destroy indigenous culture and the French language. And we said we're going to stick up for the little guy. And then they said we were no longer sovereign. And they were going to come in here and tell us with whom we could trade. Can you imagine that? And if you don't believe me, look at all the names that Trump has called us.
[00:48] Victor Davis Hanson: And that's what we're in. I am here to save you, says Carney. That's the narrative. And now they're all ginned up and they're like lemmings and they're all headed over a cliff. So here was the reality. The reality is that the United States is nine times larger than Canada in population. And it has an economy 13 times larger, not nine times, 13 times larger. And Canada sits on the third largest gas and oil reserves in the world. And probably, of the top 20 minerals, potash, precious [unclear], it has top-five natural resources.
[01:39] Victor Davis Hanson: And probably has, along with Russia, the greatest timber resources. So it's one of the most naturally blessed countries. And this country, in World War II, used those resources and supplied the British Empire when no one else did, from 1939 to 1941. And they had one of the best per capita militaries in the world. And they had their own beach at D-Day. And then they became socialists. And they're not utilizing these. So of all the 30 industrial states at [unclear], they rank last in per capita income [unclear]. They have let into their country so many immigrants from so many poor places, 45% of the Canadian
[02:29] Victor Davis Hanson: population was either not born in the United States, excuse me, in Canada, or their parents were not born in Canada, 45%. And they come from Latin America, Africa, Asia, India, with enormous needs for public health, for public food, for public housing, for public legal, everything, education. And that socialist economy, which by the way, the population of Canada at roughly 41 million is about the same as California, the worst run state in the states. The same as all the data show: unemployment, taxes, product [unclear], it is the worst.
[03:13] Victor Davis Hanson: And yet its GDP is double Canada's, Canada's. So in other words, Trudeau and Carney have this wonderfully rich state. And they decided that they were going to basically shut down the fossil fuel. So they have this Alberta that's got all of these minerals, and that's where most of the oil is, and they will not let it ship across lines through a pipe. They can't export it, and it's heavy, sulfurous oil. So we come along and say, well, we don't, we're not going to be like your own provinces. I know we're a foreign country, but we'd like the oil, and we'll pay top dollars. So you can send it right across, and we have the only refineries in the vicinity
[03:59] Victor Davis Hanson: that can refine this tar-sands oil. So we'll do it, and you'll benefit, and we'll benefit. And then you know what we'll do? If you need a pipeline to supply Quebec, and you need a pipeline for Ontario, you can, we'll just tap in here, and then you use it there, and it'll go through the United States back to those provinces for their refined fuels. We're happy to do that, we'll charge you, of course. And then we're all in a free trade zone. That's the spirit. So Trump comes along and says, if we're all in a free trade, why are they running 50 to 70 billion trade surplus, and why is Mexico running 200? And I can tell you why, and he tells everybody why.
[04:43] Victor Davis Hanson: So he says, you have a 250% tariff on agricultural goods over a certain level. And they say, no, we, yeah, but you never, we never really inflict it. And we say, we don't inflict it because we don't go over your little level. You know, I don't know what it is, 10 or 12 billion or 2 billion. After that, we just voluntarily restrict our exports to you. And we are not impinging on your sovereignty. It says in the agreement that a non-market economy, you cannot import things below the cost of production for a non-market economy. That was a euphemism for China. In other words, the United States said, we are trying to deal with this crooked China
[05:29] Victor Davis Hanson: that dumps product below the cost, violates copyright, violates patent, has slave labor. And one of the ways they get around it is, they dump cheap aluminum and steel into Canada and into Mexico, where it is assembled, and that assembled truck or car or refrigerator comes into the United States cheaper than what we can produce it domestically. And they claim it is indigenously made, but they do not even use their own steel and aluminum. They try to import it from Canada. And as far as culturally insensitive, our digital media companies, if you look at software, digital media, AI, you name it, eight or nine out of the top 10 countries are American.
[06:17] Victor Davis Hanson: Not because we made them that way, because they are the best. So naturally, they have world global markets and they offer a service. You don't have to buy it. You charge income, tax, on all their revenues in your country. But now you want to come along and say, well, you're so successful and we love your product so much, we feel that we don't have enough French stuff and we don't have enough Native American stuff. So we're going to tell you what you can put on social media and we're going to charge you an additional, sir, an extra tax of 5%. And the Americans said, wait a minute, we operate all over the world.
[07:01] Victor Davis Hanson: If we let you do that, every single country is saying that you're impinging on our Welsh people or Gaelic people or Saxon people who need their own culture. So we're going to make Facebook and Amazon have a little, we're going to pay us money so we can subsidize a bunch of these activists so that they can get paid so their culture doesn't die out. Nobody's going to do that. And by the way, we're not going to let China leverage us by using you because, and why would you want to do that anyway? You're already running up a $50 billion surplus and they are a communist, godless country that swallowed Tibet, has a million people in a work camp, has forced abortion, harvests
[07:46] Victor Davis Hanson: organs, and you want to ally yourselves with them against us to undermine our tariffs. And by the way, why did you walk out Mr. Carney on a Friday afternoon? And I can tell you why you did. You had elections coming up in Quebec and Ontario, Alberta, excuse me, and there were nationalist movements in Alberta. They were sick and tired of supplying the energy for Canada and they couldn't export it on pipelines because your environmental regulations in these various provinces would not allow them to go into their province. And you didn't tell the Canadians that only the Americans allowed you to build a pipeline into our foreign country and that your own country wouldn't let you go anywhere else.
[08:32] Victor Davis Hanson: If you want to go build a pipeline to British Columbia, go ahead and do it. We're the biggest producer of oil and gas in the world. We'll be fine. And then try to export it, but you don't do that. Do you? And who's stopping you? Not us. You are. And that is basically we said that. And then we said, and Mr. Carney, you know, you pick this date, not just so that the Quebec people and the Alberta people would vote for semi or complete independence. You want to gin up a public enemy. The orange man is now back at it calling and now everybody hates him. They boo when the American national anthem is played at sporting events. We get that. And they're all going to vote for you and you ginned it up.
[09:18] Victor Davis Hanson: And then as soon as this is over, you're going to come crawling back and saying, well, the August job reports came in and, uh, unfortunately Canadians, the last week, uh, these tariffs were included and we lost 41,000 jobs. And I told you we were going to hurt the Americans worse, but they got 160,000 new jobs. So it didn't quite work out what I wanted. And now that we stopped the nationalist movement in Quebec and the nationalist movement in Alberta, and I targeted Michigan, Minnesota, Maine, Wisconsin, with special tariffs to hurt Americans. And I got useful idiots like Gavin Newsom to cut videos that Trump was worse than I am.
[10:07] Victor Davis Hanson: And the Republicans lost the midterms and they want to impeach Donald Trump and they want to cut off funds for the Iran war. Now I want to have a deal. Yeah, that's my plan. So let's go. Let's be friends. And I, oh, by the way, I want my $50 billion a yearly surplus too. And Trump said, he said, I don't like, I don't want to deal with you anymore. I like Canadians, but you're the most dishonest people in the world. And by the way, you know, as he said, 32 NATO nations had promised for 10 years to spend 2% of their GDP on defense, but you never did. You tried to last year and you may or may not.
[10:50] Victor Davis Hanson: Well, look at your bookkeeping, it looks a little fishy, but for nine straight years, you wouldn't even do that. You know why you wouldn't do that because you were depending on the US military and NORAD and our missile defense and our huge air force to protect you. So you could shoot your mouth off about Ukraine and Russia. And if Russia ever said to you, uh, we're going to pick icebreakers right through the Northwest passage and spit on you. You knew the United States Navy, which was the biggest Navy in the world would stop it. And when somebody just said, you know what, we'll send a missile over Northwest Canada. Just give them a message. You know that we would stop it unless you want with your 79 jets, 79 and we have 5,000.
[11:34] Victor Davis Hanson: And so we're going to, you know, we're going to piggyback on you. We want you to carry us, but you know what we are going to do? We're going to attack you everywhere about the Iran war, everything, but you, because you're so strong and you're so powerful and you're such a big bully, you owe us to protect and subsidize our defense. And you have to subsidize our socialist economy by running up surpluses so we can let in 45% [unclear], and this is the killer because we have a project and it's called the Centennial Initiative. And we want to have 100 million Canadians within 15 years. That's our goal.
[12:13] Interviewer: Wait, hold on. I am so sorry, [name unclear]. Wait, I have never heard— I bet that is a [unclear]. Yeah. I think you just said they had like 40 million people.
[12:20] Victor Davis Hanson: Yes. They want 100 million because they want to rival the United States.
[12:25] Interviewer: I was going to ask you why the open borders, when— because they think that— I think that the
[12:32] Victor Davis Hanson: Canadians because they're socialists and they don't really have to worry about anything are not having children, and they are not— Their fertility rate is about 1.4, 1.3 like Europe and they're static or shrinking and they've let in all these people and their population has grown dramatically. And they think the more people from India, the more people from China, the more people from Latin America, the more people from Africa. We're going to get this huge population. They're going to be all left wing. It will never be a conservative Canada again, and then we'll have 100 million people with all these resources. Then we're really going to be tough on the Americans and it's just like they're committing suicide because they all come over there and they hate the Canadians and they have enormous
[13:18] Victor Davis Hanson: social needs and the economy in its socialist mode won't support it.
[13:23] Interviewer: Okay, but it is not the Canadians, though, and Mark Carney has got to be a pawn for the globalists, correct? Because he's got a passport until recently in three different countries, so he's about as Canadian as I am.
[13:43] Victor Davis Hanson: And so, I mean, he ran the Bank of England for a while, I think. And so yeah, he's a globalist and he hates everything about Trump. And he thought that he would just punch in like Trudeau and there would be a Biden or Obama there and say your surpluses don't matter because you're a good old leftist like us and we're going to make a leftist North America together and we'll subsidize your trade, we'll subsidize your defense, we'll subsidize everything. And that's what we did. And Trump came along and said, you know, the free ride's over, sorry, I'm going to play the bad guy. And the same thing, I'm not picking on you, I'm doing the same thing with Mexico.